Comments on: What is software engineering?

By: Bernie

Bernie — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:35:31 +0000

Hi Dave – I hope people visit your blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/dave_froslie) to catch a few glimpses of some of the big challenges and interesting solutions involved in applying agile and lean thinking to large teams. It would be wonderful to hear more of the results over the past 2 years of melding top-down and bottom-up techniques! http://blogs.msdn.com/dave_fro.....10085.aspx

By: Dave Froslie

Dave Froslie — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:30:34 +0000

Corey (and Bernie) –

Great to see you in the blogosphere!

I think there is a lot to apply from broader product development practices to software development – especially for large scale development that happens in the aerospace, automotive, electronics and other industries. Software development doesn’t frequently approach that scale, but we need to learn from other places when it does.

Keep on posting!

Dave Froslie
Microsoft

By: Jonathan Parker

Jonathan Parker — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:45:17 +0000

Well put, I agree with the case that you make. What is particularly poignant is your case of the culture lacking the rigor. I wholly agree there, a lot of people in development don’t understand the statement Software Engineers are lazy…I think they may be taking it too literally! — jp

By: Eric Willeke

Eric Willeke — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:06:08 +0000

These lessons are very important for practitioners at all levels to understand, not just project managers. I spent several years at a prior employer working with the company’s software practices and trying to help create consistency across the company to ease future consulting engagements. My explorations and learning throughout this time led me to constantly discover/create this great new thing that people have been doing for years.
These ongoing frustrations led to me blogging at http://manicprogrammer.com/cs/.....pment.aspx under the title “Rediscovering the Obvious”.

We have GOT to do something… I miss engineering too much.